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erwin

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Aug 31 11 7:32 AM

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Any of you familiar with the music of this band : Tinariwen?
On Wikipedia I read :
"While the Tinariwen style is possibly a distant relative of blues music, via West African music, members of Tinariwen claim to have never heard actual American blues music until they began to travel internationally in 2001."
Erwin

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Aug 31 11 9:46 AM

I don't know whether they actually heard blues music before 2001 or not, I know I didn't hear any blues in their music when I heard it.
I'm not saying I didn't like their music, I'm just saying it's not blues.
And there you go, yet another thread of "is it?" or "isn't it?" blues music!

No frankly, if Tinariwen's music is blues - they may have included some to their music after they heard the blues - then Fado, the "Faubourg" French female singers from the 30's and 40's such as Frehel and Edith Piaf, some Flamenco, and any kind of musical lament is blues.
I don't think so. These musics may express "the blues" as in : a feeling of melancholy, a spleen, but blues music, though evolving as any living form of art, has its own codes. Besides it can express all kinds of feelings, including melancholy, but not just that.
It's like the whole "Blues from Mali" trend from a few years ago when they found Malian musicians who played the blues, starting with Ali Farka Tour� : the man was a John Lee Hooker fan ! He had plenty of JLH albums in his home, and albums by other blues big names too !

Rene
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Stackabones

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Aug 31 11 5:05 PM

Very interesting group.

btw, Rough Guide has a compilation called Desert Blues that is worth checking out.
Rough Guide To Desert Blues

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erwin

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Aug 31 11 5:14 PM

QUOTE (Stackabones @ August 31, 2011 05:05 pm)

Very interesting group.

btw, Rough Guide has a compilation called Desert Blues that is worth checking out.
Rough Guide To Desert Blues

Thanks friend !
much appreciated
erwin

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JellyRoll Baker

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Aug 31 11 10:52 PM

I like their music. I like that style of music. It shares elements with the blues that I love. Do I think it represents an unaltered, ancient tradition that shows the roots of the blues? Get outta here!

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Aug 31 11 10:59 PM

Rene
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DerZauberer

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Sep 1 11 11:36 AM

By now I have a pretty decent collection of "African Blues", as this Genre is sometimes called. Even the first great "master", Ali Farka Tour�, was pretty clever about it: Of course he did include African traditions (Mali in his case), but when you listen to later recordings, his collaboration with Ry Cooder, etc., you can be sure he had his fair share of traditional Blues stuff in his record collection.

The same applies to Tinariwen - it's easy for us to love them because their name sounds as if it comes right out of a JRR Tolkien book, their music sound just like blues with some exotic influence.

I greatly like the stuff, as much as I like some "new" country blues where I can also be sure that these performers did not live without radio, records, CDs and TV since the 1930s, but present a current status quo.

To cut it short: Great Music. Album of the month in UNCUT magazine, quite an honor!

Don't never follow your first mind, cause that's the one that's wrong. 'Cause the Devil beats God to you every time. (Son House)

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erwin

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Sep 1 11 11:38 AM

QUOTE (DerZauberer @ September 01, 2011 11:36 am)

By now I have a pretty decent collection of "African Blues", as this Genre is sometimes called. Even the first great "master", Ali Farka Tour�, was pretty clever about it: Of course he did include African traditions (Mali in his case), but when you listen to later recordings, his collaboration with Ry Cooder, etc., you can be sure he had his fair share of traditional Blues stuff in his record collection.

The same applies to Tinariwen - it's easy for us to love them because their name sounds as if it comes right out of a JRR Tolkien book, their music sound just like blues with some exotic influence.

I greatly like the stuff, as much as I like some "new" country blues where I can also be sure that these performers did not live without radio, records, CDs and TV since the 1930s, but present a current status quo.

To cut it short: Great Music. Album of the month in UNCUT magazine, quite an honor!

thanks !
much appreciated !

erwin

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kinghendrix

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Sep 1 11 7:09 PM

I agree with Ren� about the very much extended blues link and I agree with all the good opinions given about this band. I have their second album. I was a little disappointed with the first spin because I thought it was more adventurous but that's an album I regulary listen to and appreciate.

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okiedokiestomper

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Sep 2 11 5:24 AM

this is really wonderful music---I have a lot of simmilar recordings in my collection and one artist that I really enjoy is Lobi Traore ("Mali Blue" and his self titled cd's are wicked). There's a groove to this kind of music that to me is not dissimilar to some of the modern Mississippi Hill Country style blues. In fact a couple of great recordings that beautifully show the blend of African and Mississippi Hill Country blues by Afrissippi are "Fulani Journey" and "Alliance"...beautiful stuff...you will clearly hear the roots and similarities b/t the two musics and continents. Literally Mississippi Hill Country grooves with African Fulani singing overtop. To me it chrystalizes the modal Jr Kimbrough-African link.

Maybe not blues music as were accustomed to but there is a definite link to my ears!

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Sep 2 11 8:26 AM

You may also enjoy the music of BBFer AfrOssippi - as opposed to AfrIssippi - aka Dan Treanor who put out a few CDs of blues & African music all mixed together.
Dan's MySpace, his website.

Rene
Paris, France.

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