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Grady Musick

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Jan 17 05 2:30 AM

Yes indeed Bob,
I agree 100% and whoever wins the Steelers-Patriots matchup SHOULD win the Super Bowl.

I may be out of line here but,,,what I noticed about the Patriots were that they were playing much like the Steelers do,,,,,,VERY Physical Defense and pounding out the running game on Offense.

Did anyone else notice that??

VERY "Steelers-like" IMO.

If they play that way next week in Pittsburgh,,,,,it will most likely become a game in which the strongest team wins.

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barbequebob

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Jan 17 05 2:40 AM

Well, in fact, the two teams really are quite similar, and when your Steelers beat my Patriots, we didn't have Corey Dillion available, but this time he'll be there and it ain't gonna be like that game in October one bit. Corey's been nothing short of huge for us and improved our offense dramatically.

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tiki

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Jan 17 05 2:46 AM

Excuse me Grady---but maybe the Steelers have been playing as tough as the PATS!--not the other way around---bottom line--the Pats ARE the Champs! The way folks talk about everybody else in this league but the Pats amazes me---afterall--if you look at the stats--they are the winningest team in the past three years! The Pats dont have to prove anything--everyone else has to prove that THEY can beat the Pats! and so far--the Pats are still there!

and ive got a feeling that will be after next week too!

When it comes to the big games--nobody has come though like Brady and company---and my man Teddy Bruschi! I keep hearing about the weakness in the Pats defence-----but Teddy dont look weak to me!!! Thats one extrememly underrespected defence if you ask me! And Bob is right to point out that the last time the Steelers met the Pats Corey Dillion was out of the equation---i expect this to be a very different game then we saw last time!

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Grady Musick

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Jan 17 05 3:28 AM

QUOTE (tiki @ Jan 16 2005, 09:46 PM)

Excuse me Grady---but maybe the Steelers have been playing as tough as the PATS!--not the other way around---

bottom line--the Pats ARE the Champs! The way folks talk about everybody else in this league but the Pats amazes me---afterall--if you look at the stats--they are the winningest team in the past three years! The Pats dont have to prove anything--everyone else has to prove that THEY can beat the Pats! and so far--the Pats are still there!

and ive got a feeling that will be after next week too!

When it comes to the big games--nobody has come though like Brady and company---and my man Teddy Bruschi! I keep hearing about the weakness in the Pats defence-----but Teddy dont look weak to me!!! Thats one extrememly underrespected defence if you ask me! And Bob is right to point out that the last time the Steelers met the Pats Corey Dillion was out of the equation---i expect this to be a very different game then we saw last time!

~~Excuse me Grady---but maybe the Steelers have been playing as tough as the PATS!--not the other way around---~~~

Please,You make me Laugh!!!

The Steelers were playing that type of Football when Steve Grogan was the Patriots QB,,,,,,LMAO !!!

Get a grip Tiki.

~~~When it comes to the big games--nobody has come though like Brady and company---and my man Teddy Bruschi!~~~~~

That's not counting the game in Miami or the last game they played at Heinz Field,,,right???

and,,,,I seem to remember a certain team from the 70's that won way more BIG games than the Patriots.
They've won more Super Bowls than the Patriots too.

~~~~The Pats dont have to prove anything--everyone else has to prove that THEY can beat the Pats! and so far--the Pats are still there!~~~~`

Looks like the Steelers and the Dolphins have already proved they can beat the Patriots.

~~~~And Bob is right to point out that the last time the Steelers met the Pats Corey Dillion was out of the equation---~~~~

Ok,,,here's the good one,,,,,,,

One player doesn't make much difference,,,,,
Look at the Eagles without T.O.

and Corey Dillon ????

Gimme a break,,,,,only one RB has had a good day against the Steelers this year and that was Rudy Johnson of the Bengals...

One more thing,,,,,,,,,

The Patriots were embarassed by the Steelers and beaten by the Dolphins this year.........

Just because you've won 1 Playoff game against a team that obviously CHOKED
doesn't mean you're gonna come to Pittsburgh and beat a team that is twice as physical as the Patriots.

and the Patriots hav to PROVE that they are more Physical than the Steelers to beat them.

The Steelers ARE the best team in Football this year,,,,the 15-1 record proves that.

The Patriots may be the Defending Champs but they definitely aren't the best team in football this year.

and they choked in Miami which WAS a BIG GAME because they had Home Field advantage to lose and they went down there and lost it.

So,if I were a Patriots fan,,,,,,I wouldn't be talking any crap.

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Grady Musick

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Jan 17 05 3:59 AM

You see,,,,,Tiki's last post is the very reason I am always reluctant to give the Patriots their due.

If somebody says one good thing about the Patriots,,,that just opens the door for SOME Patriots fans to start with the,,,,,,

YEH!!! We're the Champs !!!
We've done THIS and THAT and we got THIS and THAT !!!

Blah,,,,Blah,,,Blah and so on,,,,,etc.etc.etc.

Which IN REALITY,,,,you've done TWO things this year,,,,,,,,

1. Came to Pittsburgh and got your butts kicked.

2.Lost a BIG game in Miami to one of the worst Teams in the League and lost your Home Field Advantage.(that's why I say it WAS a big game)

You need a Reality Check,,,big-time

When you come to Blitzburgh next Sunday there are some things you need to remember,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

1.You Won't be playing against a team that can't play in Cold weather like the Colts.

2.It's gonna take more than Corey Dillon to beat the Steelers.
The Steelers have shut down better running Backs than him and they will shut him down on Sunday.
ANYBODY that has watched ANY Football this year already knows,,,,,

YOU DON"T RUN THE BALL AGAINST THE STEELERS !!!!!
Not at Heinz Field.

3.Big Ben has already got his "Butterflies" out of his system.
He'll be more settled this week just like he was in the OT against the Jets.

4.The Steelers have already proven that they can dismantle Tom Brady.
BUT,,,can the Patriots corrupt Big Ben???
They couldn't in the last game.

5.You have a Wide Receiver (Troy Brown) playing defense.
How hard do you think Hines Ward is gonna hit him the first chance he gets??

6.You don't have anybody on your team that can cover Plaxico Burress one on one.

7.You talk about having Dillon back.
Don't you realize we're gonna have Bettis and Staley at 100% for the first time this year?
If Dillon is such a big deal,,,,then, that makes Bettis and Duce a HUGE deal !!

8.What's all this sudden talk about Ted Bruschi???
You've got one Stellar Linebacker,,,,,,big deal.
We got a whole roster of AWESOME Linebackers.

Any of these names ring a bell???

James Farrior
Joey Porter
Larry Foote
Clark Haggans
and a guy you may have heard of named Kendrell Bell

Wanna borrow one of ours for the game???? LOL!!!

and one last thing,,,,,,,,,,

The Steelers are gonna be really fired up after their poor game against the Jets.
Good luck,,,,,,,cause you're gonna need it.

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Sassie

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Jan 17 05 5:32 AM

I only have two things to say.

a) I've been VERY surprised by some of the playoff games thus far (not so much at the outcome as the battles)

Next weekend should prove to be VERY interesting

Never put off til tomorrow what you can do the day after.

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frethead

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Jan 17 05 11:24 AM

Folks,

Looking forward to the games on Sunday... Questions ...

1) What's with the throwing glove that Big Ben wears? - for some reason it bothers me. Was his bad game due to miss reads, the glove or both?

2) Eagles - seems like they are 2 dimemsional - McNabb and Westbrook - If the Flacons can take away Westbrook - I think they win. I know Philly was 13-3 in the regular season but they do not impress me - except they may be a team that the ball is bouncing their way right now..

3) Corey Dillin - The Steelers know all about him - Have seen him for years in Cinncy - they have the 1 run "D" in the entire league - why do people think it's going to be so easy to run against the Steelers? Besides - Freeny was out alot in the second half when the Pats where on their long scoring drives... and Indy is not a good Defensive team - I do love Freeny and wish he where on my team.

4) Falcons - win and throw the ball for under 100 yards - just unheard of... The Eagles weakest part of their Defense is stopping the run.. (please check Nov 7th game vs the Steelers...) Can they do it again..

5) Did it look like Dan Marino wanted to slap Boomer and Sharp in the mouth during the pregame and half time shows yesterday? Sharp and Boomer - have to go.. they suck.

more later.. work time...

fret

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tiki

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Jan 17 05 1:03 PM

Ok Grady---we shall see---but no matter what you--or I say---the fact is that the Pats ARE the Champions and two losses in the regular season dont change that---all the scores from the regular season are meaningless at this point-you play--you win-you play again--you lose-you go home! I just know that for 3 yrs ive been hearing folks tell me why the Pats are not as good as i think they are and still---they are still playing!---and they just may be the best COACHED team in the sport--and i believe its been a while since anyone has beaten them TWICE!!!

In any case--this is one heck of year for Football!

and whoever wins in the end is gonna have to earn it!

oh yeah---about ---"YEH!!! We're the Champs !!!
We've done THIS and THAT and we got THIS and THAT !!!

Blah,,,,Blah,,,Blah and so on,,,,,etc.etc.etc."

yea they lost TWO game---neither of them BIG--or they wouldnt be still here!! and about that team on the 70's---well back in the sixties I played on a team that went undefeated for 4 yrs---DONT MEAN THAT WE COULD WIN TODAY!!!. fact is that no matter what you say or think the STATS say that the Pats are the most dominent team in the NFL for the past 3 yrs--two rings/3 yrs and in the playoffs again!!! Not a team to underestimate---although lots of folks do!!! Good luck to you and your team Grady---your gonna need it!

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frethead

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Jan 17 05 1:44 PM

Tiki,

Looking forward to good old smash mouth football game on Sunday - Should be a great game.

fret

here we go steelers.... Here we GO!!!

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tiki

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Jan 17 05 10:32 PM

QUOTE (frethead @ Jan 17 2005, 01:44 PM)

Tiki,

Looking forward to good old smash mouth football game on Sunday - Should be a great game.

fret

here we go steelers.... Here we GO!!!

Me too---ya know--i havent enjoyed a football season this much since i was a Sam Huff fan!---and every team left in it now is really good---should be a great weekend!

tiki

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Grady Musick

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Jan 18 05 7:45 AM

I agree with ya on that one Tiki !!!!

It has been a great year and the Playoffs have the right teams in the final four,,,

#1 Steelers vs #2 Patriots

#1 Eagles vs #2 Falcons

All in all I would say it's been a very "fair" season.

No BIG games were lost because of bad calls by the Referees and everything has just been very exciting.

One thing's for sure,,,,,,,,no matter WHO goes to the Super Bowl,,,,,I believe that it will be the two teams that deserve to be there.

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tanta07

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Jan 18 05 2:55 PM

QUOTE (Grady Musick @ Jan 17 2005, 03:28 AM)

Just because you've won 1 Playoff game against a team that obviously CHOKED
doesn't mean you're gonna come to Pittsburgh and beat a team that is twice as physical as the Patriots.

and the Patriots hav to PROVE that they are more Physical than the Steelers to beat them.

The Steelers ARE the best team in Football this year,,,,the 15-1 record proves that.

Whoa, whoa whoa...settle down.

Best record or no, the Steelers should be thanking their lucky stars that they're even still in the playoffs at this point. They did everything they could to lose the game against the Jets, and they just flat out got lucky that their kicked choked. Twice.

And now they have to play the Pats, and they always kick their game up to a higher level in the playoffs. Rosenbagger is going to have to play a much better game against New England, and worse yet...their kicker doesn't choke in the playoffs.

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Sassie

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Jan 18 05 9:40 PM

QUOTE (Grady Musick @ Jan 18 2005, 07:45 AM)

One thing's for sure,,,,,,,,no matter WHO goes to the Super Bowl,,,,,I believe that it will be the two teams that deserve to be there.

the Pennsylvania Bowl??

Never put off til tomorrow what you can do the day after.

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Grady Musick

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Jan 18 05 9:49 PM

All the Media hype has them giving the AFC Championship to the Patriots before the game even starts.

I hope the Patriots are watching all this and come into the game feeling very confident.

"Come into my Parlor",said the Spider to the Fly,,,,LOL !!!!

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barbequebob

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Jan 18 05 11:04 PM

Hate to rub this in, but according to Fox Sports Radio, and including this game that they almost lost to the Jets (who choked like the 2004 Yankees), but , Bill Cower's record with the Steelers in the playoffs is 1-3 and if the Jets didn't choke, it would've been 0-4!!!!!

I still can't believe how we dominated the wussy Colts so badly (yeah, right)

, even with the no holding rule that they whined about and got the league to ball wash them and put that in so Manning could look good in the post season (now to be renamed Dan Marino II).

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Grady Musick

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Jan 18 05 11:43 PM

Bob,
You need to get your facts straight.

How could Cowher be 1-4 in the playoffs ??

If you remember,,,,the Steelers went to the Super Bowl XXX under Cowher
and have made numerous trips (5 to be exact) to the AFC Championship game.

You don't go to 5 AFC Championship games and one Super Bowl with a 1-4 record.

The Steelers have had numerous playoff appearances and wins under Bill Cowher.

Feel free to rub in all the "in-accurate facts" you like.

I will be here to correct you.

I was gonna give you some real history regarding the Patriots but,a trip to their
official website reveals that the "History" section only dates back to the year 2000.

I guess they don't have much to be proud of before that,,,,,,and,if I remember correctly,,,,,They don't !!

LMAO !!

Here's some very accurate Statistics for ya,,,,,,,,

All-Time Divisional playoff Records,,,,,,,,,,

New England 4-4

Pittsburgh 12-7

Super Bowl Records,,,,,,,,,,

New England 2-2

Pittsburgh 4-1

So,,,Here's how it REALLY shapes up,,,,,,,,,

New England is barely .500 in the Post-Season whereas the Steelers
have a much better record.

Like I said,,,,before the year 2000,,,the Patriots don't have much to be proud of.

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Grady Musick

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Jan 19 05 12:40 AM

Taken directly from NFL records at www.nfl.com

In Cowher�s 12 seasons, the Steelers have captured seven division titles, earned eight postseason playoff berths, advanced to four AFC Championship games and made one Super Bowl appearance. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles.

"He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles."

you can bet Belchachek ain't one of the other five.

Here's another fact for you,,,

The Steelers are 13-7 all-time versus the Patriots, and head coach Bill Cowher is 5-4 against the Patriots

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tanta07

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Jan 19 05 2:43 AM

It's going to be a great game, for sure. The Patriots look even better than they have the last couple of years, because now they have a legitimate running game in the form of Corey Dillon. I figured their depleted secondary would be a factor, but they managed to hog-tie Peyton Manning and the high-flying Colts with little problems.

The Steelers are going to have to find a way to keep Tom Brady sitting on the sidelines, which could be a chore. The Patriots' defense is extremely opportunistic, and can come up with turnovers seemingly at will. The Steelers offense is going to have to play not to lose. Take any chances against the Pats defense, and they'll cut your throat. Grinding it out all day with the running game is probably the only way to go.

The Steelers have made it this far, so they've obviously got some mojo of their own, but the Patriots just seem to go into another gear this time of year.

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tanta07

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Jan 19 05 2:47 AM

On the NFC side, it doesn't look nearly as interesting. The matchup of McNabb vs. Vick looks good on paper, but neither of these teams really blows my skirt up. Philly is more of a complete team, but minus Terrell Owens, they become much more of a one-dimensional offense. However, Atlanta isn't complete enough yet to be a Super Bowl contender. This might just be the matchup Philly needs in order to finally get over their Championship Game jinx.

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Grady Musick

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Jan 19 05 2:49 AM

or,
the Steelers could shut down the Patriots running game and force Brady to throw 48 times like he did in the last meeting,,where he threw 2 INT's.

If the Steelers can turn it into a brutal,physical game,,,they have a great chance of winning.

The key will be to keep Brady from completing passes down the field.

It's gonna be a good game for sure and the smart money says the winner of the
AFC Championship will be the Super Bowl winner also.

I look for the Steelers Defense to come out hitting harder than ever.

They know that is their Biggest asset.

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