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Jul 26 06 4:16 AM

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In case it hasn't been brought up before-----Jody Williams plays some
"git down" guitar on early Billy Boy Arnold classic blues tunes.

Issued on other releases I'm sure-------but this is a "must have" blues CD
if you happen to come across this.

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Jul 26 06 4:17 AM

Billy Boy Arnold CD back cover.
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Jul 26 06 4:18 AM

Check out the Jody Williams listings on his 1955 recording dates with
Billy Boy Arnold.

Classic stuff!
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Jul 26 06 5:42 AM

Also speaking of Jody Williams ...

He's headlining the concert celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the Cascade Blues Association in Portland, Oregon on October 14!!

Cascade Blues Association

Vancouver, Washington
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Johnny Roy

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Jul 26 06 10:31 AM

That's where I first ever heard Jody Williams's distinctive guitar work, is on these early Billy Boy sides! Billy Boy Arnold and Jody Williams Rules!!!!

Johnny Roy

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Jul 26 06 1:55 PM

Dave Gonzales from the Paladins used to say that "Don't Stay Out All Night" was his favorite song. The Paladins recorded a nice version of it, back when they were a blues band. Dave played about the biggest chords and had the coolest tone (thanks in part to his tube Echoplex) of any of those "post-Hollywood Fats" southern California guitarists; it's a shame that more didn't happen for that band when they were in their blues groove, maybe they wouldn't have gone off in other directions.

Chicagoland

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Jul 26 06 5:19 PM

QUOTE (rshurman @ Jul 26 2006, 01:55 PM)

Dave Gonzales from the Paladins used to say that "Don't Stay Out All Night" was his favorite song. The Paladins recorded a nice version of it, back when they were a blues band. Dave played about the biggest chords and had the coolest tone (thanks in part to his tube Echoplex) of any of those "post-Hollywood Fats" southern California guitarists; it's a shame that more didn't happen for that band when they were in their blues groove, maybe they wouldn't have gone off in other directions.

Yeah Dick, I caught the Paladins in the late 80's one night in Lexington and recall Dave singing Don't Stay Out All Night and remember seeing his Echoplex on the stage floor and hearing the great sound he got out of that big blonde Hollowbody guitar ( a Guild perhaps?). What happened to them I wonder? Is Gonzales still playing in the San Diego area? Are they only doing rockabilly now?

My all time favorite Billy Boy song to sing was My Heart Is Crying. I used to do that tune along with You've Got Me Wrong in my band Jack O'Diamonds back in the 80's. All great material that really grows on you. I'd like to pull those out and start doing some more Billy Boy songs again soon!

I was only one year old when he recorded those sessions!!

Johnny Roy

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Jul 26 06 5:35 PM

QUOTE (rshurman @ Jul 26 2006, 01:55 PM)

Dave Gonzales from the Paladins used to say that "Don't Stay Out All Night" was his favorite song. The Paladins recorded a nice version of it, back when they were a blues band. Dave played about the biggest chords and had the coolest tone (thanks in part to his tube Echoplex) of any of those "post-Hollywood Fats" southern California guitarists; it's a shame that more didn't happen for that band when they were in their blues groove, maybe they wouldn't have gone off in other directions.

Exactly! My favourite stuff!

"The dog wont bite if you beat him with a bone"

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Jul 26 06 5:40 PM

QUOTE (Johnny Roy @ Jul 26 2006, 05:19 PM)

QUOTE (rshurman @ Jul 26 2006, 01:55 PM)

Dave Gonzales from the Paladins used to say that "Don't Stay Out All Night" was his favorite song. The Paladins recorded a nice version of it, back when they were a blues band. Dave played about the biggest chords and had the coolest tone (thanks in part to his tube Echoplex) of any of those "post-Hollywood Fats" southern California guitarists; it's a shame that more didn't happen for that band when they were in their blues groove, maybe they wouldn't have gone off in other directions.

Yeah Dick, I caught the Paladins in the late 80's one night in Lexington and recall Dave singing Don't Stay Out All Night and remember seeing his Echoplex on the stage floor and hearing the great sound he got out of that big blonde Hollowbody guitar ( a Guild perhaps?). What happened to them I wonder? Is Gonzales still playing in the San Diego area? Are they only doing rockabilly now?

My all time favorite Billy Boy song to sing was My Heart Is Crying. I used to do that tune along with You've Got Me Wrong in my band Jack O'Diamonds back in the 80's. All great material that really grows on you. I'd like to pull those out and start doing some more Billy Boy songs again soon!

I was only one year old when he recorded those sessions!!

Johnny Roy

Dave Gonzales is doing stuff with his new band, The Hacienda Brothers...Mostly country & western swing with some rockabilly.... That�s where his roots are... George Jones etc...

I too saw The Paladins 2 times here in Finland and on the first time when I was 16, they were mostly blues... Gave me a huge shot in the arm to play even more blues!

Guild has a David Gonzales-model based on his old Guild... Not shure is it still available from them...

The Paladins are on well deserved retairment... They haven�t broke-up, they still do shows occasionally...

"The dog wont bite if you beat him with a bone"

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Jul 26 06 7:01 PM

QUOTE (Johnny Roy @ Jul 26 2006, 11:19 AM)

My all time favorite Billy Boy song to sing was My Heart Is Crying. I used to do that tune along with You've Got Me Wrong in my band Jack O'Diamonds back in the 80's. All great material that really grows on you. I'd like to pull those out and start doing some more Billy Boy songs again soon!

About 30 years ago I was riding in my car with the late Good Rockin' Charles (the Chicago harp player who skipped Jimmy Rogers' "Walkin' By Myself" session). When "My Heart Is Crying" came on my 8 track player (worst audio playback format ever invented), Charles yelled out "give me something like THAT to blow over!" It's true, the backup work is about as solid as it gets and leaves plenty of room for the harp on top of it.

Chicagoland

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Jul 26 06 8:05 PM

Jody Williams he could play just like BB or T-Bone but I guess he didn't get much opportunity when he worked for like Howling Wolf. Excuse me for butting into this thread without having read the previous posts, guess I'll do that now.
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Jul 26 06 8:18 PM

The sleeve notes for the Return of a Legend CD are very informative -- he basically packed it in for 30 years because he felt ripped off, a real tragedy. He's great again now, but imagine how he might have developed if he hadn't laid it to one side for so long...

Cliff

Loughborough, UK

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Jul 26 06 8:51 PM

Speaking of Jody Williams: on Jimmy Rodgers album "His Best" he is incorrectly listed as playing the guitar on Rock This House on some of the copies. On my copy Reggie Boyd is correctly listed, on my friend Tom's they list Jody.

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Jul 26 06 9:20 PM

QUOTE (blues_cliff @ Jul 26 2006, 02:18 PM)

The sleeve notes for the Return of a Legend CD are very informative -- he basically packed it in for 30 years because he felt ripped off, a real tragedy. He's great again now, but imagine how he might have developed if he hadn't laid it to one side for so long...

Cliff

On the other hand, he avoided the smoke, wear and tear of thirty years in the clubs; he and his family live a lot better than they would if he'd relied on music for that time; he's probably a lot less bitter (though he does have the well-known lingering sore spots); and he avoided being influenced by all the funk, disco, etc. he'd have had to learn from the jukebox to keep working. Even when his refusal to touch a guitar disappointed and frustrated me, I always admired him for understanding what upset him and leaving it alone. Of course, I was thrilled when he shocked me by getting back into the game six years ago.

Chicagoland

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Jul 27 06 8:01 AM

QUOTE (rshurman @ Jul 26 2006, 09:20 PM)

QUOTE (blues_cliff @ Jul 26 2006, 02:18 PM)

The sleeve notes for the Return of a Legend CD are very informative -- he basically packed it in for 30 years because he felt ripped off, a real tragedy. He's great again now, but imagine how he might have developed if he hadn't laid it to one side for so long...

Cliff

On the other hand, he avoided the smoke, wear and tear of thirty years in the clubs; he and his family live a lot better than they would if he'd relied on music for that time; he's probably a lot less bitter (though he does have the well-known lingering sore spots); and he avoided being influenced by all the funk, disco, etc. he'd have had to learn from the jukebox to keep working. Even when his refusal to touch a guitar disappointed and frustrated me, I always admired him for understanding what upset him and leaving it alone. Of course, I was thrilled when he shocked me by getting back into the game six years ago.

Well, I guess that's very true -- hadn't thought of it that way

Cliff

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Jul 29 06 9:00 AM

QUOTE (rshurman @ Jul 26 2006, 07:01 PM)

About 30 years ago I was riding in my car with the late Good Rockin' Charles (the Chicago harp player who skipped Jimmy Rogers' "Walkin' By Myself" session). When "My Heart Is Crying" came on my 8 track player (worst audio playback format ever invented), Charles yelled out "give me something like THAT to blow over!" It's true, the backup work is about as solid as it gets and leaves plenty of room for the harp on top of it.

Actually I'd love to hear that tune on an 8 track! I know what you mean, That is such a solid groove. On the other hand, the groove on I Wish You Would is about as loose as it gets! Loose in a good way of course. That groove sounds so "Diddleyesque" to me. I noticed years ago that Bo Diddley helped on some of Billy Boy Arnold's early sessions. I've always wondered if there was some cross influences there either Diddley influencing Arnold, or vice versa. Of course it's Jody Williams laying down that loose but genious guitar riff on I Wish You Would.

Johnny Roy

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Jul 29 06 3:43 PM

QUOTE (Johnny Roy @ Jul 29 2006, 03:00 AM)

QUOTE (rshurman @ Jul 26 2006, 07:01 PM)

About 30 years ago I was riding in my car with the late Good Rockin' Charles (the Chicago harp player who skipped Jimmy Rogers' "Walkin' By Myself" session). When "My Heart Is Crying" came on my 8 track player (worst audio playback format ever invented), Charles yelled out "give me something like THAT to blow over!" It's true, the backup work is about as solid as it gets and leaves plenty of room for the harp on top of it.

Actually I'd love to hear that tune on an 8 track! I know what you mean, That is such a solid groove. On the other hand, the groove on I Wish You Would is about as loose as it gets! Loose in a good way of course. That groove sounds so "Diddleyesque" to me. I noticed years ago that Bo Diddley helped on some of Billy Boy Arnold's early sessions. I've always wondered if there was some cross influences there either Diddley influencing Arnold, or vice versa. Of course it's Jody Williams laying down that loose but genious guitar riff on I Wish You Would.

Johnny Roy

Billy and Bo had been playing together for years at that time and there must have been some cross-influencing; I'm guessing that beat came from Bo. Billy only went to Vee-Jay to do that session because Bo told him Chess didn't like him. And regardless of the issues Jody has with Bo, he never denies that Bo taught him a lot of the basics on guitar; that lick may well have come from their days together. Whatever the genesis, "I Wish You Would" is a classic for sure.

Chicagoland

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Jul 29 06 8:15 PM

QUOTE (rshurman @ Jul 29 2006, 03:43 PM)

Billy and Bo had been playing together for years at that time and there must have been some cross-influencing; I'm guessing that beat came from Bo. Billy only went to Vee-Jay to do that session because Bo told him Chess didn't like him. And regardless of the issues Jody has with Bo, he never denies that Bo taught him a lot of the basics on guitar; that lick may well have come from their days together. Whatever the genesis, "I Wish You Would" is a classic for sure.

Thanks so much Dick for your insight, all of this is very interesting to me and I haven't seen alot written about those sessions, nor about the history Bo, Billy Boy, and Jody had together. Those recordings, though somewhat rough, are truly infectious. I know they had a big influence on alot of the early British blues bands, etc.. I'm glad Billy went over to Vee Jay and did them!

My band fronted Bo Diddley once in the 80's and we were all somewhat dissapointed that his show focused primarily on that "Ol' 50's Rock N' Roll Revival" thing. He seemed to have left his blues roots behind. I recall my harp player, a kind of amateur musicologist himself, saying he thought Bo's "head was in the wrong place". I agreed.

Johnny Roy

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